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abc5575

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Post by abc5575 on Sat 16 Jun 2012, 5:28 pm

Hi Vicki, thanks for info, how much was it for the tyres? we also need a spare wheel and tyre.
We just don't seem to be able to find tyres near us.
I cannot remember the size of the tyres on the 6, Dart, etc, But O/H doesn't think that Mini wheels would fit under arches.
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Post by Helen on Sat 16 Jun 2012, 7:40 pm

Hi



Congratulations on Desmond the Designer Dandy ..... excellent choice

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Post by abc5575 on Sat 16 Jun 2012, 9:04 pm

Hi Helen, Thankyou. Desmond does need tlc, but O/H is good at these things.
I am just wondering if we should have just roof linings, or bed curtains as well,desmond is winterised, where the others were not, but i was wondering if he would be more 'snug' with linings.
O/H is also a whizz with the sewing-machine, so has always made these in the past.
Have you got pics of your Dandy?
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Post by Helen on Sat 16 Jun 2012, 9:12 pm

This is my dandy in the Gallery, I do like to change my curtains and cushions Laughing

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I don't use linings in my dandy, it's like yours and winterised and we haven't had a problem with condensation. We do need a roof liner in the awning though because that tends to get some.
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Post by vickoir on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 10:03 am

we have roof liner and curtains but only cos it came with them, however for our old delta i made curtains, cushions etc and recovered seats but didnt bother with roof liner and it was fine cheers

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Post by abc5575 on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 2:41 pm

Thanks Helen and Vicky, I think that We may not bother with the linings, just bed curtains.

Helen did you get your upholstery professionally done? O/H loves it, as do I. Really brightens things up. He was wondering how the roll on the seat was done.

Vicky, have ordered 2 new wheels with tyres on, we will keep the rims, as 1 tyre is fine as a spare.
Including p&p and some new buttons for trailer total was 87.00.
They were ordered from Western Towing. remembered that we had used this firm when we had our last TT.
Hoping they will come within the week, can't wait to get camping.
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Post by Helen on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 2:44 pm

The upholstery, cushions and curtains is a DIY job, you remove the mattress and then you'll find a length of wood that holds the roll in place, it's just riveted on ...... remove the first bit of wood and when you roll the padded bit back you will find another, remove this too and re-cover then replace with new rivets.

I'll find the link for cheapish material from ebay, that's where we got ours from and it's fire resistant too.
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Post by Helen on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 2:50 pm

Found it ....... take a look at the second post in this thread, I started it a while ago so people could ask questions and give tips on soft furnishings Very Happy

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Post by Tow Itch on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 4:25 pm

abc5575 wrote:Hi Vicki, thanks for info, how much was it for the tyres? we also need a spare wheel and tyre.
We just don't seem to be able to find tyres near us.
I cannot remember the size of the tyres on the 6, Dart, etc, But O/H doesn't think that Mini wheels would fit under arches.

The 6's and early Destinys are 12" wheels as per Hillman Imps and a completely different kettle of fish as are the GRP bodies Destinys on 13" wheels.
All the rest are on 10" wheels as per the original Mini (before wider and larger wheels were introduced)
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and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Though the quoted sizes for the Destiny and older Destiny are in error. The site has not been fully fault found yet some of the lengths were in error till recently.
Why are we asking about wheel sizes rather than just tyres? Are the wheels looking a bit naff?
What size tyres are on at the moment?
I didn't read your post as well as I might, I'd not properly thought about it being a Designer. While Crossplys are of a larger diameter and help lift the tail down aspect of the Dandy there is an negative factor. Designers and Discoverys owners often fret about tyre clearance in the arches. A settling of the indespension unit can make things look close any deformation to the internal arches and clearance gets desperate.The topics of raising the ride height or upping the suspension capacity for Designers/Discoverys are oft covered, here is one thread: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post by mike on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:13 pm

Tow Itch wrote:
abc5575 wrote:Hi Vicki, thanks for info, how much was it for the tyres? we also need a spare wheel and tyre.
We just don't seem to be able to find tyres near us.
I cannot remember the size of the tyres on the 6, Dart, etc, But O/H doesn't think that Mini wheels would fit under arches.

The 6's and early Destinys are 12" wheels as per Hillman Imps and a completely different kettle of fish as are the GRP bodies Destinys on 13" wheels.
All the rest are on 10" wheels as per the original Mini (before wider and larger wheels were introduced)
See: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Though the quoted sizes for the Destiny and older Destiny are in error. The site has not been fully fault found yet some of the lengths were in error till recently.
Why are we asking about wheel sizes rather than just tyres? Are the wheels looking a bit naff?
What size tyres are on at the moment?
I didn't read your post as well as I might, I'd not properly thought about it being a Designer. While Crossplys are of a larger diameter and help lift the tail down aspect of the Dandy there is an negative factor. Designers and Discoverys owners often fret about tyre clearance in the arches. A settling of the indespension unit can make things look close any deformation to the internal arches and clearance gets desperate.The topics of raising the ride height or upping the suspension capacity for Designers/Discoverys are oft covered, here is one thread: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]



Dont know about all the sixes but some are on 10 inch mini wheels,mine is this my have changed with the low sided destiny
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Post by Tow Itch on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:29 pm

mike wrote:



Dont know about all the sixes but some are on 10 inch mini wheels,mine is this my have changed with the low sided destiny


?????????? That's an odd one even the 1981 brochure that I linked to shows an 155 SR 12 on the 6's
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Post by mike on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

Could it be that hillman imp wheels became scarce but minis carried on
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Post by mike on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

Just looked at an older spec and they where 12 on that so i bet they changed be interesting if Ben gives us the size of his wheels, or could it be why i struggled to fit 10 inch tyres lol!
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Post by bgarston on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 6:04 pm

mike wrote:Just looked at an older spec and they where 12 on that so i bet they changed be interesting if Ben gives us the size of his wheels, or could it be why i struggled to fit 10 inch tyres lol!

I know I have that information somewhere, but do you think I can find it now!? I know for sure that the rims on our 6 are one of the standard sizes fitted to Hillman Imps but can't remember if they are 12" or 13". I do know they are definitely bigger than the 10" mini sized wheels fitted to smaller Dandy's.

If I find the information tonight I'll update this thread.

Cheers


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Post by mike on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 6:08 pm

Looks like i may have the only 6 on 10inch wheels affraid Ben if yours are imp wheels they should be 12inch i think
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Post by bgarston on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 7:11 pm

mike wrote:Looks like i may have the only 6 on 10inch wheels affraid Ben if yours are imp wheels they should be 12inch i think

Ahhh I can rest easy tonight; you know when you can't find something but you know it's in a safe place....?

Anyway I've found the info I was after and the tyres on our Dandy are 155/80 R12 77T, making the rims 12".

Mike, I have seen a couple of other 6's a similar age to yours (if PVC colour is anything to go by) on 10" rims so I don't think it's anything to worry about.

Hope this helps?

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Post by abc5575 on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 10:25 pm

Hi all. Our tyre is 145 10 5.20-10 4PR.

We think that we may have ordered the wrong one, due to offset, all befuddled now. pale

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Post by abc5575 on Sun 17 Jun 2012, 10:27 pm

Our 1979 6(Brummel) had 155SR12. Desmond seems more awkward.lol
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Post by Tow Itch on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 4:31 am

abc5575 wrote:Hi all. Our tyre is 145 10 5.20-10 4PR.

We think that we may have ordered the wrong one, due to offset, all befuddled now. pale

I'm befuddled now. The radials are 145/10 the crossplys 520 10 unless I've missed something one tyre can't be both.

The "awkward" thing if referring to manual handling (pushing) though lighter the Designer has smaller wheels than the 6. Smaller wheels are harder to push and especially when negotiate bumps. Is that the awkwardness you refer to?
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Post by bgarston on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 6:54 am

bgarston wrote:
mike wrote:Looks like i may have the only 6 on 10inch wheels affraid Ben if yours are imp wheels they should be 12inch i think

Ahhh I can rest easy tonight; you know when you can't find something but you know it's in a safe place....?

Anyway I've found the info I was after and the tyres on our Dandy are 155/80 R12 77T, making the rims 12".

Mike, I have seen a couple of other 6's a similar age to yours (if PVC colour is anything to go by) on 10" rims so I don't think it's anything to worry about.

Hope this helps?

Ben

This 6, for sale on eBay, looks like its on 10" rims too: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I wonder if Dandy used 10" rims for a while due to a supply issue?

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Post by abc5575 on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 8:58 am

Hi Tow Itch, we are both befuddled then, as I had the tyre on me knee when i was writing down,
145/10 5.20-10 4PR, helpppppp!!!!!

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Post by abc5575 on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 9:02 am

I am sooooo sorry, I thought that i had seen 145/12 scrub that !!!!!!!
just 5.20-10 4PR.

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Post by abc5575 on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

It is going to be one of those days, I meant 145/10 sorry Embarassed

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Post by abc5575 on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

So just 5.20-10 4PR this is on tyre.
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Post by Tow Itch on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 12:12 pm

So the last user has used crossplys. This lifts the tail up a little more than the radials but leaves a little less space under the arch.

Just to confuse things futher I would say the radial tyre size is 145/80 10 with a load rating in excess of 63 and a speed rating of n or more. So it would read 145/80 10 63N but I'm actually now realising I'm missing out the R for radial from this so it's 145/80 R10 63N.
The reason I've realised this is that Bias Belted tyres which I've always seen sold in the older 500 10 or 520 10 are for sale in the 145/80 10 size the difference being that they are 145/80 B10 as against 145/80 R10. Some sellers make this clear see: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Sone dont make the difference too clear see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] It does say bias belted in the add but the tyre is not correctly sized including stating B in the sidewall marking.
If you want some new wheels as well Trailer Tek also do tyres with wheels. Notice the centre offset wheel offered with a 4" PCD and the standard Mini offset of 23mm (Wonder if that was originally 7/8ths at 22.225mm or 29/32nds at 23.0188mm?)
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