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warbird01uk

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looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Sun 11 May 2014, 8:09 pm

Hi all, Looking at older Dandy trailer tents to tow behind our Smart for-two. but, I need to find sizes & weights first! so I'm hoping someone here can help! also, were they all fitted with brakes?
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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by navver on Sun 11 May 2014, 11:26 pm

Hi Warbird, do you know the towing limit of your car. All Dandy's are braked. The lightest have a max weight fully loaded of 500kg or 10cwt. Unladen they are lighter.
1980 range catalogue shows unladen weights:
Dart or 4 - 5cwt
Delta or 4/5 - 5.5cwt
Discovery or 5 - 6cwt
Destiny or 6 - 8cwt

1996 brochure shows ex works:
Dart - 250kg
Delta - 275kg
Discovery 300kg

All give 2 double beds, the dart is 4berth, delta 4 + small child, Discovery/Designer 5 berth. Presumably there will only be 2 of you.
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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by mike on Mon 12 May 2014, 5:10 am

 

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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Mon 12 May 2014, 8:16 am

Thanks for the info folks, I'm looking at a unit that a friend of mine has, should tow well behind my Smart car at that weight, I'm thinking that its a 4/5 Alco plate is saying 1982
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Is it a 4/5??
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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by mike on Mon 12 May 2014, 9:08 am

A guess here but i would have thought 4,it may have a narrow bench but only narrow  Very Happy 
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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by Helen on Mon 12 May 2014, 10:35 am

Hello and welcome, I agree with Mike as it has outboard wheels too butthere is no absolute definite with any Dandy as they did what the customer wanted   

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by Phoenix on Mon 12 May 2014, 3:57 pm

Hi and   

We would say its a 4 too. Looks the same size as Phoenix.  Smile 

If so will be 4 foot across the tub.

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by navver on Mon 12 May 2014, 10:05 pm

Is there an actual listed towing weight for your car.

It must be possible but you need to be sure of the numbers

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by Caz1960 on Tue 13 May 2014, 9:39 am

   the dandy looks great I agree with all     
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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Tue 13 May 2014, 5:20 pm

Thanks for the welcome & the info, I thought it may be a 4/5 as there is room for the trailer triangle between the rear lights & the door frame. There are pictures of outfits with the triangle above the same lights as it wouldn't fit between the light & the door frame so I'm thinking those are the 4's. I hope I'm not wrong!! Shocked 
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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Tue 13 May 2014, 5:23 pm

navver wrote:Is there an actual listed towing weight for your car.

It must be possible but you need to be sure of the numbers

750Kg is the kerb weight so it seems.

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No listing in this country for Smarts as far as I know! That picture looks like it was taken in the States! love the 'Moon' discs. I love you I love you

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by navver on Tue 13 May 2014, 11:05 pm

My guess would be 4/5.

If the manufacturer's don't give any tow weights, can you legally tow in this country?
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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Wed 14 May 2014, 1:44 pm

navver wrote:My guess would be 4/5.

If the manufacturer's don't give any tow weights, can you legally tow in this country?

I don't see why not, I'm not going near the kerb weight of the car so I think its going to be OK. I'm having a look at the unit tomorrow & will do a test tow before I buy it, If the car feels strained then I will walk away.
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Tow bar

Post by warbird01uk on Wed 14 May 2014, 4:09 pm

This is the tow bar, most of it is behind the plastic bodywork, electric socket is in the boot, I can't mount it on the bodywork as it removes for servicing the engine!

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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Thu 15 May 2014, 8:31 pm

Woo Hoo! Picked it up today in Poole, the tub is just under 5' wide so I think that makes it a 4/5. Towed it back behind the Smart car, hardly knew it was there! kept an eye on the engine temp all the way back to Bristol, stayed in the normal so its not putting much extra strain on the engine.
Now starts the fun, I don't think I can live with the blue paint, will maybe go for cream or something like the car colour, then a full rewire as the wiring is terrible!

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by Helen on Thu 15 May 2014, 9:34 pm

Cream would be a good colour for a Dandy tub or brown, they were never blue originally   

 

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by navver on Thu 15 May 2014, 9:47 pm

What colour is the dandy PVC
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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by Caz1960 on Fri 16 May 2014, 9:20 am

 looking good can't wait to see your photo's think it would look good matching your car   
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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Fri 16 May 2014, 11:07 am

navver wrote:What colour is the dandy PVC
Tis Brown!
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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Fri 16 May 2014, 11:11 am

Caz1960 wrote: looking good can't wait to see your photo's  think it would look good matching your car   
I shall be looking for paint as close to the car colour today! (will not be metallic though!) not sure what I'm going to do with the blue cover though short of getting another made up in grey so as to look silver.
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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Fri 16 May 2014, 11:13 am

Helen wrote:Cream would be a good colour for a Dandy tub or brown, they were never blue originally   

 
No, the Blue has to go!! affraid affraid 
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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by Helen on Fri 16 May 2014, 11:35 am

I like blue normally, tis one of my favourite colours ..... but not with a brown Dandy  Evil or Very Mad 
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warbird01uk

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Fri 16 May 2014, 4:05 pm

Just been to my local Awning repairers & they are going to make me a new trailer cover in light grey with two burgundy/brown stripes which should be a nearer match colour wise to the Smart car. Very Happy 

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by navver on Fri 16 May 2014, 11:42 pm

For those who cant wait for a piccy I think it's probably this one.

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Re: looking for sizes & weights

Post by warbird01uk on Sat 17 May 2014, 12:08 pm


It certainly was! but I've known Chris for years so I got 'mates rates!'

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Now going through a colour change! (better than the Blue!) also a new trailer cover is being made for it in a light Grey.

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